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Uzbek TV
December 15
ddressing the second and final day of the fourth parliamentary session on
15 December, Uzbek President Islam Karimov criticized the definition of
terrorism given in the bill on fighting terrorism and demanded a new
definition incorporating the international political aspects of the
phenomenon. He also said that the draft law on defence, which which
empowers the president to declare war in emergencies, should stipulate that
any such decision be endorsed by parliament within three days. The
following are excerpts from a report by Uzbek TV on 15 December, including
excerpts processed from Uzbek radio the same day:
The parliament's second day started with a debate on the draft law
on fighting terrorism. The chairman of the Supreme Assembly Committee for
Defence and Security Issues, Akhtam Tursunov, made a speech on the subject.
He spoke about the bill, which has been publicized for nation-wide debate.
He said, amongst other things:
Tursunov: "Against the background of the increased threat of terrorism, many
countries are seeking to improve their legislation and documents on
countering terrorism."
President Islam Karimov also expressed his point of view on
the bill. Speaking about the differences in the bill between the first
reading and after the public debates, President Karimov said the following:
President Karimov: "I am trying to ascertain the differences between the
first and second reading of the bill. The main point here is how we should
understand the notion of terrorism.
"Looking deeper into the matter, in the past, in medieval times, there was no
such term or notion as terrorism. From the point of view of the criminal
code, probably there was no term terrorist. Either people called the person
a robber or a murderer and so on. So I think that, at the end of the 20th
century, and now in the 21st century as well, we have to admit, whether we
want to or not, that terrorist acts are increasing. If we do not properly
comprehend the notion, the idea of a terrorist, if we do not use correct
terms in the law on terrorism, if we do not give it a political colouring,
then that will be a big mistake.
"The latest edition as proposed by Mr Tursunov, the head of the committee,
writes: Terrorism is socially dangerous wrongdoing which is prosecuted
under the Criminal Code of the Republic of Uzbekistan. I would like to ask
you what you think about this. This is the main statement. All other
provisions follow from this. Let us ask ourselves what the expression
socially dangerous means. Let us say, would be it a socially dangerous act
for three or four people to go out and block a major highway, or is that
something different?
"If I were to be asked, I would say and propose that the UN and various
international organizations, say Interpol, and other organizations fighting
against crime should unite. The laws of the various countries and the terms
used in them should be deeply studied and compared and should be given a
unified political status and assessment and should then be implemented.
Maybe today we should address the international organizations on behalf of
our parliament, our Justice Ministry and all the [government] departments
involved, saying: come on, let's get together and discuss how a state
should regard terrorism.
"Terrorism does not exist in one single state;
terrorism is an international evil, manifesting itself on the international
stage. It is most dangerous and poses the greatest threat. So why are the
international organizations keeping silent? Why is everyone playing his own
game? For example, in London, in Paris and other places, where are the
leaders who supply these terrorist groups with everything and give them
money for buying arms? Where are they? Who are the biggest banks providing
their services to? There are many of them - Bin Ladin and many others.
Where are they finding shelter? Who is helping them? From this point of
view, when adopting the law on terrorism, we must consider this issue in
the broad sense of the term.
"Let us define clearly what terrorism is. That is why, Akhtam
Tursunov, I think that it is wrong to take such a superficial approach
towards the issue of terrorism.We cannot take a superficial approach
towards this issue. Maybe the first edition did not meet all the
requirements, but it covered much wider issues. Such a superficial
definition of terrorism is a political mistake. What do you think about
this?"
Tursunov: "Mr. President, your
comments are very right and proper. We were also of the same opinion. After
the first reading, the bill was published and put forward for nation-wide
debate. But the law-enforcement agencies were intransigent and insisted on
exactly this version of the definition. They said: We need no new
definition other than the one in Article 155 of the Criminal Code. It is a good definition and suits us. If you give
a new definition, that will complicate our work to fight crime and protect
the law, they insisted. That is why we were forced to back down.
"What you have just said is very proper. If you give us the opportunity, then
by the end of the session we will once again run over international laws
and study the experience accumulated in other countries and submit the bill
to the vote."
After that, the deputies discussed the draft law on defence. The chairman of
the Supreme Assembly Committee for Defence and Security Issues, Akhtam
Tursunov, addressed the session on this matter, too.
President Karimov: "The law on defence should be comprehensively correlated with the
laws we have just adopted and, above all, with the constitution. I think
that empowering the president with the right to declare war is a very great
responsibility. It accords with international legislation. We raised this
matter when we were drawing up our new constitution. Indeed, in the event
of aggression against our country, the president should take his decision
without any hesitation, but his decision should be submitted for
parliamentary endorsement within three days. That is why in Paragraph 13
of the bill, which says that the president has the right to declare war
in the event of aggression against the Republic of Uzbekistan or to enable
it to meet its commitments under the treaty to jointly oppose aggression, I
would like to add the words: "in keeping with the provisions of the
constitution.
"The president does not need excessive rights. He has enough rights, which
are already a heavy burden on him. That is why we should understand this
matter correctly. If we aspire to build a law-governed state, then we
should monitor each other. In such cases the parliament should monitor the
president. We are not talking about Karimov, here. What we are talking
about are the rights of the president in general. We are not talking about
personalities, here. God willing, there will be a new president tomorrow. I
consider it inappropriate to give the president the right as specified in
the bill. From the point of view of democracy, the parliament should both
protect and monitor the president in such cases.
"What is your view on this? I think that the majority of those sitting here
will support me."
The session ratified the agreement between the Republic of
Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan on delineation of the state borders, the treaty
between the Republic of Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan on military and
miltiary-technical cooperation, the space convention between the Republic
of Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan and the convention between the Republic of
Uzbekistan and Italy on avoiding double taxation and preventing nonpayment
of taxes on incomes and capital.
Bohodir Eshonov has been reelected chairman of the
republic's Constitutional Court. Uzoq Bozorov, Genjamurod Pirjanov and
Sayyora Khakimova were approved by
the parliament as Constitutional Court judges. Nurinisa Obidova, Mansur
Ahmedjonov, Rustamjon Imomov and Sultonqul Khudaynazarov were elected
Supreme Court judges. Aqida Qosimova and Tolqin Yusupov have been endorsed
as judges of the Supreme Economic Court.
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